Thank you, Mr. Elitzur, for saying what needs to be said. I think that the Arabs should be given a choice of Israeli citizenship, citizenship in any other country that will offer it, or special non citizen status which allows participation in society if they prefer. Very humanitarian.

My comment (#32, 21 May) on Haaretz article http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1086928.html was:
”If no two state solution (Israel plus puppy, resource-short state of the PA)– what?

Being swept ethnographically or asking Jordan and Egypt for returning to pre-67 borders?

Please, explain, from Israel’s viewpoint, of course.”

So, naivety of having Jordan-Etypt taking over the Territories rules.

So far, it seems that the Palestinians themselves are the greatest obstacle to forming a Palestinian entity than anyone or anything else—even their enmity towards “the Zionists” can’t unite the two ruling factions.

Aside from that, how many Palestinians who grew up under the system educating them to want and demand a Palestinian state will be willing to give up the ideal that the Palestinian Nationalist movements themselves conceived and instilled in them? Would Hamas agree to live as a peaceful minority, no matter how temporary they might think that might be? Would Fatah?

Would Khaled Meshaal be willing to give up his power? Would Mahmud Abbas? Would Ismael Haniyeh? Somehow I have my doubts.

On the other hand, the Israeli government had great trouble in the 1990s absorbing less than 1 million Russian immigrants after the collapse of the Soviet Union—there was high unemployment, many overqualified professionals taking jobs far below their professional qualifications, overloaded healthcare, social welfare and education systems and more. Expecting any country, no matter how rich, to absorb a sudden influx of between half and two-thirds of its own existing population without collapsing socially and economically just isn’t realistic (Israel’s population is presently around 7.5 million and the present Palestinian population is between 4-5 million).

Neither is the simple logistics of attempting to disarm the civilian population, particularly both factions of extremists—those who demand a “greater Israel” and those who demand a single Islamic state “from the [Jordan] river to the [Mediterranean] sea.”

Merging an (almost) first-world country based mainly on high-tech industries with a third-world welfare state dependent on international largesse is truly mission impossible, especially since the dedicated relief organizations such as UNWRA would be dissolved and the services financed by them would be discontinued.

What I am saying is that a one-state solution is an idiot’s pipe dream and a recipe for disaster for both Palestinian Arabs and Israelis.

Any two-state solution will have to include plans to make the new Palestinian state capable of providing the services and infrastructure necessary to life without the massive support it presently receives from Israel (80% of its electrical power, 90% of its water for all purposes, etc) and the rest of the world. The Palestinians have the highest ever per capita income through ”relief funds” of any refugee group in history, but their ”
leaders” have been robbing them blind.

The ”Arabs within Israel” are Israeli citizens, not ”refugees”.

The Palestinians had plenty of chance to develop between 1967 and today, but preferred to be employed in Israel (up until the first Intifada) and/or receive relief aid from UNWRA. No PA government has dedicated itself to developing infrastructure, health care, education, industry, agriculture or trade– they preferred to steal as much of the money given by the US, EU and other sources to sock away in ”secret” bank accounts that only they had access to. How do you think Yasser Arafat died a billionaire?

PW: “You are talking about the Palestinians as they have given a chance to develop but they wasted it.”

As If? The Palestinians have been given more than one chance, starting in the 1920s, but have refused to live at peace with “the Jews” each and every time, preferring to destroy what others build rather than building something themselves.

PW: “The realty is the Palestinians are a nation under occupation - say it OCCUPATION laud and clear- has no means to develop them self or their Occupied territories where all of the resources they own are sucked by the Israelis, and they are living in a big jail, where the settlers taking every top of hill and ever good sport to live in and creating Jews only roads surrounding the Palestinians cities and villages that make their movement very limited if not impossible.”

I suggest you read Prof. Louis René Beres’ article, “Israel Occupies No Arab Territories” (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1226404769705&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)

And/or: “The Myth of the ‘Occupied’ Territories” (http://www.newswithviews.com/israel/israel16.htm)

As a professor of international law, he has a better understanding of the topic than either you or I have. Read what he has to say.

PW: “Are you kidding, If Israel allows the Palestine to create power station they will never import power from Israel, and all UN reports says that Israel is the one who is stealing the Palestinian’s water from the west bank and Gaza.”

It’s not a question of what Israel wants, but a question of what the Palestinians want. IF the Palestinians really want their own country, the leadership AND the people should be more than interested in being independent of outside bodies for their power needs.

Since the same aquifer layer runs under Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Israel and the West Bank, a case could be made for the claim that any one of them is “stealing” water from the others, depending on the agenda of the person writing the report.

PW: “When the Palestinians democratically elected a party as their government Israel and the US refuses that and only supported the corrupted government of Mahmud Abbas.”

Yes, the Palestinian people elected Hamas democratically. The first act of Hamas upon taking power was to reject each and every agreement signed between Israel and the previous administration. Hamas may have been democratically elected, but its actions since that election have been anything BUT democratic. Does a democratic government take its opposition members and throw them off tall buildings or shoot them in the kneecaps without trial? Does a democratic government support and even participate in bombarding its neighbor with over 8,000 rockets over a period of years, disclaiming responsibility yet congratulating those doing the firing?

Does democracy stop once the votes are counted, or is it a continuing process where every action is judged and the government in question is held accountable for its actions?

PW: “It is cleat that any thing in the Palestinians interests would be the last thing Israel will do.”

Again, it’s not a question of what Israel wants, but a question of what the Palestinians want. Can you name one single successful country that did not build itself? IF the Palestinians want their own country, THEY are the ones who will have to build it.

PW: “Again It is the Occupation and its followups which is causing all this problems.”

If you really believe this, the kindly explain to me exactly what “occupation” resulted in:

The Palestine Arab riots of 1921, when Palestinian Arabs went running through the streets of Jaffa, Jerusalem, Tiberias, Zefat, Hebron and Gaza (yes, Gaza, which had a Jewish community since Roman times), shouting “Itbah al Yahud!”

The Palestine Arab riots of 1929, when Palestinian Arabs, ran through the streets of Hebron massacring the residents of Hebron’s Jewish Quarter shouting “Itbah al Yahud!”

The Palestine Arab riots of 1936-39, when Palestinian Arabs ran through the streets of Palestine Mandate cities shouting “Itbah al Yahud!”, killing any Jew they found, burning and looting Jewish businesses.

The Iraqi Farhud of June 1941, in which Iraqi Arabs ran through the Baghdad market screaming “Itbah al Yahud!” and murdering Iraqi Jewish shopkeepers.

Arabs have been massacring Jews simply for being Jews since 1011 in Cordoba, Spain, then part of the Islamic Empire, with other massacres throughout the centuries: Fez, Morocco (1033), where some 6,000 Jews were murdered on the streets and in their homes; Granada (1066) where 4,000 Jews were massacred; again in Fez (1465) when only 11 Jews were left alive out of a Jewish community of thousands.

Explain the collaboration of the Palestinian Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini to further the “Final Solution” in the Middle East under the auspices of Nazi Germany during WW II. What “occupation” was he “resisting”?

Palestinian behavior towards Israel is nothing more than a continuation of this Arab culture of hating anything not subservient to Arabs and Islam. Israel’s only “crime” is being non-Muslim and free—which the Arabs can not accept.

I make no claim for Israel being “perfect”, or even better than other countries except in one respect: it is one of the few countries in the world where religious freedom is practiced, not just talked about.

You certainly don’t see Jews blowing themselves up in Arab shopping malls, restaurants and public places, nor do you find armed groups of Jews entering Arab neighborhoods screaming “Slaughter the Arabs!”, looting, killing and burning.

“The Occupation” is the excuse, not the cause.

“1 million Russian Jews migrated to Israel in the nineties” – I try to believe.

And how many Jews are employed in Canada for mainstream / international organizations, Peace Watcher? So far, Muslims usurped the Human Resources of practically all the UN System organization with clear outcomes-see what’s up with the Atomic Energy in Austria.

Israel has got no much obligation to provide the PA with know-how than any other Arab state did it prior 1967.

How interesting it is that you not only don’t want to read the opinion of a recognized expert in the field of international law solely because his opinion differs from yours, you haven’t responded to a single question of mine in any previous post.

If all you want to do is spout unsupported rhetoric, there are plenty of forums on Orkut, Facebook, Twitter and other sites where you can find people who will pat your back for it.

PW: “Nice when you try to change the bases of the problem and you want to me to read books of these titles, no thank you, I have youtube and google and by a simple search for ”Palestine”, ”Gaza”, ”occupied territories” ...etc, I will get enough information about this conflict which in doubt point the finger at Israel as the cause of the problem.”

Yes, you “have YouTube and Google—you also have no way of separating the genuine facts from the lies, half-truths, propaganda and pure garbage you will find without a decent starting knowledge of the facts. Those were not books I recommended, but articles written in journals dealing with international law, available on the Internet. Anyone who relies solely on YouTube and Google for their information is searching for a jewel in a pile of shit a mile wide and a mile high. Happy hunting!

The Arab-Israeli conflict is a far from simple topic that requires a lot of study to understand and even more study to come up with realistic solutions. You couldn’t submit a term paper researched solely with YouTube and Google—how on earth do you think you can understand something far more complex that way?

PW: “The occupation is a reality and the UN nation/security council decision makes no doubt that it is an illegal and brutal occupation of Palestinians land taking place with an organized ethnic cleansing with unlimited support of the US.”

The only “illegal and brutal occupation” of the West Bank and Gaza occurred when Jordan ruled the West Bank and Egypt ruled the Gaza Strip, penning Palestinians in refugee camps and shooting any that tried to leave, denying Palestinians of all but the most basic subsistence-level necessities.

Under international law, land has to belong to a country to be “occupied territory”. The West Bank and the Gaza Strip were parts of the Palestine Mandate, which expired on May 14, 1948. When Palestinian Arabs declined to create a state and embarked instead on a declared war of annihilation, it became “disputed territory”, belonging to no nation. Why didn’t Jordan and Egypt (or the Palestinians themselves) create a Palestinian state then, instead of maintaining their occupation?

PW: “However, lets assume what you said is correct, so again What is the solution to this conflict would be?”

Any solution is dependent on the real desire of the Palestinians and the Israelis. Any peace imposed by third parties can not possibly work if both sides are not dedicated to making peace. Until the Palestinians decide to elect a government dedicated to peaceful coexistence that represents the will of the people, there is no solution.

PW: “I am sure you have no answer, why, simply because Israel is a state built on conflict and it is getting its power and unlimited support from the US throw picturing it self as the victim of this conflict and if this conflict resolved; Only God knows what the mighty Israel will become.”

Oddly enough, Israel is the ONLY one of the belligerents that has constantly begged the others to make peace—quite literally. Peace needs two sides wanting to make peace, not one. As long as Palestinians and other Arabs refuse to make peace with Israel there can be no peace—only a state of war with intermittent flare-ups.

PW: “you can turn the facts upside down and you can claim anything you want since you have the power, but the only fact which you can’t change is this:

**As Long as the Occupation Exists Peace will be missing.**”

Here you have it exactly backwards. Even if all Israelis were to disappear into thin air overnight, leaving all buildings, installation and infrastructure intact, there would be no peace. Armies from the surrounding Arab countries would push the Palestinians aside and grab whatever they could, leaving the Palestinians no better off than before, and probably even worse off.

The “occupation” is a result of the conflict, while you seem determined to believe that the conflict is a result of the “occupation”. As long as you miss this point, you will remain just as clueless as you are right now.

I see you point but I don’t agree with you.

Israel and the Arabs governments are causing the same level of misery to the Arab people and to the Palestinians.

Just look here

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=israel&aq=f


Don’t worry I was search the keyword ”Israel” in Youtube, and guess what I got?

PW: “I see you point but I don’t agree with you.

“Just look here

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=israel&aq=f

“Don’t worry I was search the keyword ‘Israel’ in Youtube, and guess what I got?”

The more general your keyword, the more garbage you’ll get. Refine your search. As an example, the site “IfAmericansOnlyKnew” is an anti-US government site run by some real extremists with many of their articles appearing on neo-Nazi sites such as “Stormfront”.

Others, like the Ahmadinejad clip will be only peripherally relevant to Israel. In giving this list, you only prove my point that it’s impossible to get much in the way of facts out of YouTube without great care.

PW: “Israel and the Arabs governments are causing the same level of misery to the Arab people and the Palestinians.”

This is a pretty sweeping statement—and like most generalities is false. All the real facts available indicate that the main architect of the Palestinian misery is the Palestinian “leadership” itself. Even now, 16 years after the Oslo Accord, there hasn’t been one single obligation met by the Palestinian Authority out of the commitments they signed in Oslo. Granted, Israel’s record is almost as bad, but every concession by Israel has only led to more killings, more violence and more terrorism by the Palestinians.

On the other hand, the Palestinians don’t even seem to be able to agree among themselves and continue killing each other (six Hamas gunmen and PA police died in a West Bank firefight on Sunday). Can you imagine having a country like that as YOUR neighbor?

How would you like to take a little quiz to test your “Palestine knowledge”? Anyone wishing to take it can participate. I’ll post it in a separate post.

How much do you know?
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Take this test and find out!
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Test your Palestine IQ
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If, like most people, you have clear views on the Arab-Israel conflict, and you are convinced that you know how to bring peace to the Middle East, then you are invited to try the following simple quiz. To see how much you really know about the subject, answer these twenty questions then check your score.
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1. As is well known, Palestine is the Holy Land for Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Palestine’s sanctity in Islam is expressed in the fact that the Koran mentions Palestine:
a) 1,034 times;
b) 837 times;
c) 408 times;
d) 1 time;
e) Not once.
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2. Jerusalem is the third holiest city for Islam (after Mecca and Medina). In honour of this status, the Koran refers to Jerusalem as:
a) Al-Kuds (“The Holy”);
b) Al-Medina al-Kuds (“The Holy City”);
c) Urusalim (“Jerusalem”);
d) Al-Kibla al-Awalani (“The First Direction [of prayer]”);
e) By no name, because Jerusalem is never mentioned in the Koran.
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3. The Dome of the Rock, on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, is one of Islam’s holiest shrines. To emphasize this sanctity, Moslems pray on the Temple Mount:
a) Facing the Dome of the Rock;
b) In the north-west section, to face the Dome and Mecca simultaneously;
c) Standing facing the Dome of the Rock, kneeling facing Mecca;
d) Facing the Dome of the Rock for certain prayers, Mecca for others;
e) Kneeling facing Mecca, their backsides facing the Dome of the Rock.
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4. The Jewish claim to the Holy Land is that God promised it to them. Moses – the Jewish national leader – is quoted as saying: “O my people! Remember the bounty of God upon you…and gave you that which had not been given to anyone before you amongst the nations. O my people! Enter the Holy Land which God has decreed for you”. This speech of Moses is recorded in:
a) The Book of Exodus;
b) The Book of Isaiah;
c) The Talmud;
d) The Midrash;
e) The Koran (Sura 5:20-21).
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5. In popular literature, historical discussions, political debates, and other forums, the Palestinians’ standard claim is that they are:
a) The descendants of the Biblical Philistines (a tribe originating in Crete, who invaded the Holy Land in the early Biblical period);
b) The continuation of the Biblical Canaanites (a Hamatic tribe, in perpetual warfare against the Philistines);
c) The descendents of the earliest Christians (i.e. Jews);
d) An integral part of the Arab nation (a Semitic nation originating in Arabia, and entirely unconnected to the Philistines, the Canaanites, and the Jews);
e) All of the above.
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6. In the period of history that Palestine was an independent country, its capital city was:
a) Jerusalem;
b) Jaffa;
c); Haifa;
d) Ramallah;
e) Meaningless, because there was never in history an independent country called
Palestine, so there was never a capital city.
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7. The earliest mention of Palestine in history is:
a) In the Hebrew Bible, in the Book of Genesis, when God commanded Abraham to go to Palestine;
b) In the Hebrew Bible, in the Book of Joshua, when the Israelites conquered Palestine;
c) In a stone plaque dating from about 600 BC, commemorating the Babylonian conquest of Palestine;
d) In the New Testament;
e) In the year 135 CE, after the European Roman invaders defeated the Jewish revolt and re-named the province Palestine.
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8. “There is no such country [as Palestine] ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. ‘Palestine’ is alien to us.”
Who said these words?
a) Golda Meir, Prime Minister of Israel, in a speech to the American Zionist Organization, 1972;
b) Moshe Dayan, Minister of Defence of Israel and former Chief of Staff of the Israel Defence Forces, addressing the General Staff, 1968;
c) Benjamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel, in his election victory speech, 1996;
d) Abba Eban, Israeli Ambassador to the United Nations, in a speech in 1981;
e) Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, a local Arab leader, addressing the British Peel Commission, 1937.
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9. “The ‘Palestinian People’ does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the State of Israel.”
Who said this?
a) Egyptian dictator, President Gamal Abdul Nasser, addressing the Egyptian parliament, a month after the Six Day War, July 1967;
b) Jordanian King Hussein, a week before the Six Day War, May 1967;
c) Syrian dictator, President Hafez al-Assad, addressing the Arab League, 1994;
d) Iraqi dictator President Saddam Hussein, addressing the Iraqi nation in a televised speech, 2002;
e) Zahir Muhsein, executive member of the PLO, in an interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw, March 1977.
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10. On the eve of Israel’s independence in May 1948, approximately 600,000 Arabs lived in the areas that would soon become the State of Israel. When the War of Independence was over (March 1949), 150,000 Arabs were still there. This is why the UNRWA (United Nations Relief Works Agency) officially recognized that the number of Arab refugees was:
a) 450,000;
b) 600,000;
c) 850,000;
d) 1,000,000;
e) 1,300,000.
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11. In June 1982, the Israel Defence Forces entered south Lebanon to fight against the PLO, which had invaded Lebanon in 1975. The total population in southern Lebanon was about 400,000, of whom vast numbers – perhaps as many as 10% – fled northwards to escape the fighting. UNIFIL (United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon) officially estimated the number of refugees as:
a) 40,000;
b) 80,000;
c) 120,000;
d) 250,000;
e) 600,000.
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12. The Palestine National Covenant (the constitution of the PLO) states that “Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit” (Article 2). 77% of this indivisible territorial unit is today:
a) The State of Israel, and the remaining 23% is Judea and Samaria (the ”West Bank”) and Gaza;
b) Israel (including Judea, Samaria, and Gaza, i.e. the ”occupied territories”), and the remaining 23% are the border areas of various neighbouring Arab states;
c) Judea, Samaria, and Gaza (the ”occupied territories”), and the remaining 23% is divided between Israel and Jordan;
d) Judea, Samaria, and Gaza, and the remaining 23% has been annexed to the State of Israel;
e) The Kingdom of Jordan and the remaining 23% is Israel (including Judea, Samaria, and Gaza).
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13. As its name suggests, the raison d’etre of the PLO (Palestine Liberation Organization) is to liberate Palestine. Accordingly, the PLO has fought to establish its independent state in:
a) The whole of Israel, starting with Judea, Samaria, and Gaza (the “occupied territories”);
b) Sovereign Israel alone, rejecting any claim to Judea, Samaria, and Gaza (prior to the Six Day War);
c) Jordan (in the late 1960s and early 1970s)
d) Lebanon (from the mid-1970s until 1982);
e) All of the above.
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14. The PLO’s purpose, as they and their supporters make clear, is to liberate the “occupied territories” which Israel captured in the Six Day War (5-10 June 1967). This claim is proven by the historical fact that the PLO was founded:
a) In Ramallah, the biggest city in the West Bank, a month after the Six Day War;
b) In Gaza City, which has traditionally been a center of Palestinian nationalism, on the first anniversary of the Six Day War;
c) As a response to the establishment of the first Israeli settlement in Hebron in 1969;
d) On the 10th anniversary of the Six Day War, in June 1977, in Hebron;
e) 3½ years before the Six Day War, on 1 January 1964, in Cairo (the capital of Egypt).
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15. In the 25-year period 1950-1974, the Arab countries (including Iran) donated a total of $26,476,750 in aid to Palestinian refugees, representing 0.04% (i.e. $1 out of every $2,500) of their combined oil revenue for 1974 alone. The only country in the entire Middle East which gave no aid at all to Palestinian refugees was:
a) Israel;
b) Iran;
c) Libya;
d) Jordan;
e) Algeria.
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16. Israel has often been accused of “ethnic cleansing” of the Arabs in the “occupied territories”. The demography bears this out, because the Arab population of Judea, Samaria, and Gaza has:
a) Plummeted from 6,500,000 in 1967 to 3,000,000 in 2006;
b) Plummeted from an estimated 5,000,000 in 1967 to less than 2,000,000 in 2006;
c) Remained steady at 3,000,000, despite huge natural growth in the rest of the world;
d) Increased at one tenth of the pace of natural population growth;
e) Increased from about 750,000 in 1967 to an estimated 3,500,000 in 2006, a population growth of nearly 500% in less than 40 years, which is one of the highest rates of increase anywhere in the world.
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17. Israel has also been accused of “ethnic cleansing” of Arabs who are citizens of the state, and deliberately enforcing policies designed to keep the Arab population small. This, too, is shown by the demography, in that the Israeli Arab population has:
a) Dropped from slightly over 1,000,000 (40% of the overall population) in 1948 to 750,000 (20% of the population) in 2006;
b) Remained at a steady 1,000,000 from 1948 to 2006, while the overall population has increased seven-fold;
c) Increased from 500,000 in 1948 to 1,000,000 in 2006, representing a drop from 35% of the overall populati! on to just 12% in 58 years;
d) Decreased steadily by 2% per year from 1948 onwards;
e) Increased from 150,000 (15% of the overall population) in 1948 to about 1,400,000 (22% of the overall population) in 2006.
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18. As of 2007, there are five universities (the Islamic University of Hebron; Bir Zeit University ; Bethlehem University; Al-Najah University in Nablus and Al-Ahzar in Gaza), and five religious higher education academies, throughout the “occupied territories”. These institutes are:
a) All that remain of 25 institutes of higher education, the others having been destroyed by the Israeli occupation forces;
b) Some of the oldest in the Arab world, with the Islamic University of Hebron having been founded under the original Caliphate in the 8th century;
c) Forced to operate secretly, because the Israeli authorities have banned them;
d) Barely tolerated by the Israeli authorities;
e) All founded since the Israeli “occupation” of 1967, under Israeli auspices, the oldest one being the Islamic University of Hebron, founded in 1971.
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19. Since the Israeli “occupation” of Judea, Samaria, and Gaza in 1967, nine Palestinians have been sentenced to death by the courts and judicially executed. All of them, without exception, were executed:
a) By the Israeli military occupation authorities;
b) By the Israeli Army after military courts-martial;
c) By the Israeli civil administration, following criminal trials in civilian courts;
d) By Israeli civilian courts, acting under special emergency regulations;
e) By the Palestinian Authority in the autonomous zones since September 1993, because Israel is the only country in the Middle East that does not have the death penalty.
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20. In early October 2005, an estimated 650 people charged the security fence/separation barrier, and an estimated 350 succeeded in crossing it. Security forces responded with bayonets, shotguns, and rubber bullets, killing between ten and fifteen people. This incident was given minimal media attention and has been entirely forgotten, because:
a) The world media is biased in Israel’s favour;
b) A dozen Palestinians killed is so commonplace, it is not even newsworthy;
c) The Israeli authorities imposed a media blackout;
d) Jewish settlers intimidated the journalists and photographers into silence;
e) The incident occurred along the security fence in Morocco, separating sovereign Morocco from the Spanish Sahara, and the security forces in question were Spanish.
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Scoring
Every a) is worth 1 point; every b) is worth 2 points; every c) is worth 3 points; every d) is worth 4 points; every e) is worth 5 points.

Note: I did not write this quiz; it appeared in a blog by another Israeli who gave general permission to use it wherever it could do any good.

An analysis of test results will be posted in a few days.

”The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ... ignorance, It is the illusion of knowledge”

Exactly what your are trying to do here..

I found these while searching, nice videos huh!!

http://www.veoh.com/collection/occupation101/watch/v511366MtMfDGng#watch%3Dv509301j35J6fDM

http://www.veoh.com/collection/occupation101/watch/v511366MtMfDGng

http://www.veoh.com/collection/occupation101/watch/v511366MtMfDGng#watch%3Dv511856W3QMd7nw

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